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Hello finally here

Well finally got the time to pop on to your site, been busy updating my sites to php includes that I finally figured out how to do and got a lot of css added for the layout and backgrounds etc. See one of the sites I have done here starlightstudiographics.co.uk/indexmain.php… very pleased with it (even though I know Jewel doesn’t like tables) lol I tried to make them look more like word press tables, :wink:

I also have been quite ill and still am really. I have suspected crohns disease and am in a lot of pain and it is difficult to site. Already had a colonoscope and have a barium meal x ray session next week….just want a diagnosis so it can be healed, think it may also be a fissure, which is causing the pain :cry2:

Anyways thats why I have not been around much, hope you are all well and happy congrats on becoming a grandma again and give our love to Chrystal.

Love Kerry xx

8 Responses to “Hello finally here”

  1. Comment by Jewel from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Tut tut Kerry, are you still doing tables? What are we going to do with you? :grin: :grin:

    I am so sorry to hear about all your digestive troubles. Been there, bought the t shirt myself. :sad:
    About 20 years ago, was diagnosed with IBS, (after all the exams you have had, lovely arent they?), and got colpermin prescribed, and then years later after my 4th child, developed a fissure, of which you speak. Ouch! couldnt sit or lie down without pain for 5 months. :cry2:
    Good news though, after a small operation to repair it, as a day case under general anaesthetic, it was fixed for good. Have had no trouble with it for 10 years now, so please god that will be what happens to you, but I feel for you hun. :flower:
    I spent most of my time kneeling against the sofa watching tv as I recall. :oops:

    Do let me know how you get on. I will be thinking of you. :redflower:

    Have you moved into your own place yet by the way?

    love Jewel xxxxx

  2. Comment by Jewel from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Ok, one or two pointers for your site, which is definitely coming along. :cool:

    You need to use a doctype on your pages, right at the top. As you are using a frameset, your doctype would be the frameset one as shown on this site:

    www.cookwood.com…

    Resources about doctypes:

    www.w3schools.com…

    Remove the body tag that you have right at the top of your page, just after html. It shouldnt be there, so get rid of it. Your body tag comes after the tag.
    Your styles can be taken out of your main body, and put into the styles in your head. Ie the background img info and colours info can all go in your styles bit.
    Even though you are using tables, you can still take out the presentation stuff and put it into the css at the top.
    My only concern about your table background is that it makes the text a bit difficult to read. :sad:

    Have a look here for more hints and ideas:

    www.w3schools.com…

    All of this site gives useful info on tables html, css and a lot more besides.

    Have fun :type:

    Jewel xxxxx

  3. Comment by *Kerry* from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Thanks Jewel. It is very painful, mostly when I have been to the loo, lol.

    Re moving into my own house, I already did last year, remember when I told of the burgularies, well I never moved back in with my grandad I have stayed there just lock the door all the time now.

    Re my site, I have no idea why that body tag is there, it isn’t there on ace html but it is on the source code, wierd, tried allsorts to remove it to no avail??? puzzling indeed.

    I have neatened up my html/css and added the bgr styles etc to the stylesheet.

    I thought the text was clear enough as I have tried for a fairly plain main bgr.

    I’m not using frames or framesets, it is just a table and tr and td tags, no frames, so I have used the 4.01 transistional doctype is that correct?

    Thanks for the tips and pointers, I would switvch to full css layout but I like having backgrounds rather than colours, is there anyway I can update the tables I am using to become full css but keeping the backgrounds?

    Love Kerry xx

  4. Comment by Jewel from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    You can still use backgrounds with css, it doesnt just have to be colours. You can also use tables with css, but as I dont use them I am not as familiar with the codes needed. I suspect you give each table a css class, and then you can specify the background images in the css. For example if you wanted to have an outer table, you could give it a class”outer” so that in the css it could say
    .outer: {
    background: url(images/mybackground.jpg) border: none;
    any other css that applies to this type of table goes here too
    }

    and then on the page in the html, your table would have the class=”outer” in it.
    table class="outer"

    So basically if you give each different table its own class you can put all the table properties in the css under that class and just label the table with its class in the html. so if you had more than one table using the same background image, you could give them both the same class name. If each table hasd a different background image, you give them different classes and put the bg info into the css. Basically, your tables are the same as divs in css, so you can style them in the css and not in the html itself. It is the same with body background images, fonts used and so on. All this stuff goes in the css in the head, and has a class name in the html.
    W3 Schools css info is very handy as a reference, and although it may not talk about tables in the css part, you can still style tables using css, if you must use them. :wink:

    Here are some tables resources for you:

    www.w3.org…

    joeclark.org…

    www.456bereastreet.com…

  5. Comment by *Kerry* from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Thanks Jewel. I have got the tables all in the css with bgr url and dotted classes etc, just wondered if I could get the same effect using divs???

    lol sorry for the barage of questions. lol

    Thanks for the links :smile:

  6. Comment by *Kerry* from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    PS: I got the body stuff removed it was beacause I had used it twice in my include and haeader file and wasn’t checking the main include file that I had indexed, lol

    Kerry xx

  7. Comment by *Kerry* from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Changed the main page url to starlightstudiographics.co.uk/home.php…

    I have checked validator coming throguh about div aligns and about cell padding and celle spacing not being able to be used with html 4.01??? Oh well I will leave it all, all seems to be working now.

    Thanks for your help
    Love kerry xx

  8. Comment by Jewel from Great Britain (UK) your flag

    Hi again,
    If you want an effect such as a middle table and background image, you can create a wrapper div that works much the same way as an outer table. you specify the width of the wrapper div (no more than 780 pixels is usual because then it wont scroll if people are using small monitors, and will have space either side on bigger screens). You can make it smaller of course, but pixels are easier to judge than percentages in my opinion. If you want the wrapper to be centred on the screen, you add this to your css: It is the margin, padding text align and width that are important for centring. The body margin of 30px simply gives you a gap of 30px from the top of the screen before your wrapper begins. You can adjust this size to suit.

    html, body {margin: 0; padding: 0; border: 0;}

    body {
    margin: 30px auto;
    padding: 0;
    font-size: ;
    font-family: name of font(s), sans-serif;
    background:#e7e7e7 url(images/yourbackgroundimage.jpg);
    /* base color if desired and path to image url */
    text-align: center;
    color: #333 colour of main text on page goes here ;
    }

    #wrapper {
    background: url(images/yourinnerbackground.jpg) ;
    text-align: left;
    margin: 0 auto;
    padding: 0;
    width: 780px; /* or your choice of size */
    }

    The main wrapper div has simply been called wrapper here, but you can call it anything you like of course. In your html, you would say:

    html
    head
    head content goes here including styles
    /head
    body
    div id="wrapper"
    page content goes here...
    /div
    /body
    /html

    Other columns and boxes can be positioned inside your wrapper div as you want them. ( obviously the html will need proper code tags around the head, div etc, but I cant put them in here, or the browser thinks they are real tags and tries to use them. :headbang:

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